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Not Appreciating Condom Culture
ARVIND K.PANDEY , PRAYAG: Dec 27 2008
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Not Appreciating Condom Culture

We need to view some so-called progressive concerns in a wider perspective. How can a failure to imbibe aberrations of human nature leads to creation of ‘backward-looking social morality’? Even the mindless criticism of certain progressive banners regarding Delhi High Court’s insistence to maintain the validity of Section 377 of IPC, an act which outlaws against the order of nature, is wholly out of tune with psyche of this nation.

Well, neither I am against the freedom of mature individuals nor I am in favor of moral policing their personal lives, which is blatant violation of privacy. But moot question involved here is that whether exceptions can be treated at par with general phenomenons associated with the culture. How can something be impressed upon the whole mass in the name of progressive spirit if at very first sight such acts appear embarrassing to them? How many those advocating homosexuality would like their wards to enter in one such relationship? None.

Not Appreciating Condom Culture

Not Appreciating Condom Culture

Even Shoba De who has churned out trash in this regard feels uncomfortable when asked what be her reaction if their daughters come to pursue the same line of action as charted by their lesbian characters in her novels. I wonder why can’t this generation be progressive where it really matters; for instance wiping out ill effects which are borne out of intellects limitations, kill the ills emanating from human’s selfishness to amass wealth by mercilessly trampling the beings of weaker souls and checkmate cruel means aimed at crushing another person’s identity in a mad rush to make a place for oneself. Instead of doing so we Indians have learnt the art of accepting the ‘borrowed ideals’, in order to blow the trumpet of progressiveness, finding it safer to become the dumping ground of West. Our drawing rooms today have become go down, better call them showrooms, of MNCs.

Not Appreciating Condom Culture

No doubt in past India has been home of such bizarre acts but mind you the rationales governing then have confined them to limited class, who in no way were associated with mainstream affairs. Just see the result of dhoom (read dominance) of so-called’ sexual boom’. My radio keeps popping up safe sex ads after every three minutes, the newspapers have gone berserk in inscribing our consciousness that sex-education in schools or for that matter, condoms in tiffins, are alone the way to prevent future generation from the clutches of HIV/AIDS.

Remember this ’sex education circus’, has its origin in progressive spirits, call them devil’s advocate, open call to make way for licentious relationship in matters related with sexuality. Today these same guys are totally at their wits end to curb the growth of HIV/AIDS. It’s pity that public memory is so short when it comes to intercept the consequences of following short sighted visions in past.

I am also surprised as to how come progressiveness has become synonymous with bizarre approval to outrageous act like group sex etc. Why can’t these proclaimers display the same progressive mannerism in other arenas of life with same ease?

Without hesitation I can state that bulldozing the limitations dividing one human from another in name of societal norms, often resting on ignorance, would lead to creation of better progressive society rather than making way to wild sexual orientation.

Lastly, let me confess that a healthy relationship between man and woman puts to rest all the needs of experimenting with ‘fiery calls’ of subconsciousness’. It’s mostly who have failed to build an intimate relationship with a fair sex give way to unnatural relationship. I have no objections to such relationship but not without this revelation that these unnatural relationship can never act as the bedrock of progressive society.

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Manila, Bangladesh
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Thanks to you for your observation.
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Michael C
Lyon, France
Interesting article this, and, as usual with these issues, there is no ”true” answer of course.

Just people’s points of view and the cultural and moral moeurs of a given country. That’s fine and how it should be. People and cultures are different.

I do not, however, follow the idea that India is the ”dumping ground” of the West.

Why? Well, Arvind, because it is the opposite of what your very good point implied;

”we Indians have learnt the art of accepting the ‘borrowed ideals’, in order to blow the trumpet of progressiveness, finding it safer to become the dumping ground of West”.

I think you should be asking WHY INDIANS THEMSELVES choose it. No-one is forcing it down anyone’s throat at gunpoint. People in India CHOOSE it. And INDIANS find it fashionable, rightly or wrongly. Indians need to look at the behaviour of INDIANS in order to find tha answers. If no-one does, then things won’t change, if you see what I mean.

In my humble opinion Arvind, trying to put the blame at the West’s door would be avoiding the question, that which would not help your (perfectly justifiable, even though I think a little differently) cause.

This all reminds me of France, where the French complain about the ”invasion” of their language by anglo-saxon words. Same thing. No-one forces tham to do it, and speaking ”fringlish” has become fashionable.

But it’s always easier to blame others...

Seeya!
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@Michael

I appreciate your viewpoint.

India can borrow better things from West.I am waiting for the day when we Indians will learn to borrow better perceptions from the Western world.
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Michael C
Lyon, France
LOL!! Well YEAH!!!

I mean you guys don’t HAVE to buy Western sexual morals.

We have better stuff too, like books, music, film and poetry.

Without talking about some pretty cool ideas about social systems that help ALL and freedom of cultural and political expression.

We may be bad, but we’re not ALL bad lol!!!!!!
(Global Perspectives)
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@ Michael C

It’s time to inform you that I love many things in Western world.Earlier,I could not state that because we both carried wrong impressions about each other.Such an impression being now a thing of past( Can I think so? ),I have no hesitation in declaring that a healthy interaction between East and West is essential for both the worlds to progress in a better way.

My criticism of West has not been intercepted in right context and that has given rise to certain wrong beliefs about my approach.I am not at all against interaction between East and West.However, I am absolutely against blind imitation of everything that takes place in the Western world!!
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@Michael

Yes Indian society is torn between two extremes, liberal west & ultra conservative influences from western borders...India somehow has been able to have a moderate way all these years...

As far as sexuality is concerned I do favor the western openness as conservatism unnecessarily complicate even the perfectly natural relationship between heterosexuals forget others...
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@Jitaditya

Don’t forget that thing called ”openness” is a double-edged sword.The so-called ”openness in sexual matters” is giving sleepless nights to parents across the globe.BEWARE.Such ”openness” not only goes out of control but also creates irreparable situations.

Anyway,it’s a nice feeling to receive your comment after a very long time.
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@ Aravind

Again that can be said in both ways...conservatism is also a double edged sword...while it might make it ”safe” to some extent it creates other complications...like there are married couples with ultra conservative upbringing who have sex only to have children...I don’t see a point in living like that...also what about those policeman beating up dating youth in the name of saving ”culture”?...

Also about the concern of the parents...that is again relative...some parents just can’t accept that kids have grown up & can have different needs...
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Michael C
Lyon, France
Fine. You’re right.

So, if you are against ”blind imitation”, the battle is thus against why people do it, and not the origins of it or what is wrong with it.

After all, the problem isn’t ultimately ”going to hell for your sins” but not sinning! The devil exists but we cannot eliminate him. So we have to look to ourselves and our beliefs for the answers.

And that, my friend, in terms of why Indians like Western influences, is an Indio-Indian question.......

Good luck!
(Global Perspectives)
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@Jitaditya

Well, there has to be a ” Laxman Rekha ”or else we would all sooner or later start behaving like sex maniacs.Conservatism is a lesser evil than openness,which has led to rise in abortion cases besides hosts of other unwanted developments.

To an extent that even contraceptives have ensured that ”illegal relationships” be safer..ha..ha.
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Well...that’s your view...I think conservatism is bigger threat...because it doesn’t stop at that...if not curbed you can see the ultimate result among the Talibans...

anyway nice talking to you loggin out for tonight...
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@Jitaditya

Well, I am not supporting Conservatism.I have talked about having a ”Laxman Rekha”.That itself suggests that I am not against honouring the currents of time.But that should not be done at the cost of cherished values roped in by our forefathers.
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@ Jitaditya


“ …had you not resorted to filmy dialogues...(or was it a poem?)”

————-Ha..ha..ha

” Aao Ki Hum Apne Gunaho Ko Koi Achha Sa Naam De De....”


Jitaditya Bhai yeh filmy dialogue to bilkul nahi ho sakta hai.Aajkal ke filmy dialogue itne arthapoorna keha hote hai.Aajkal to ”Teri Nikal Padi”....”Teri To Phat Padi”....ityadi...ityadi..type ke hote hai.

Ye alag baat hai ki is tarah ke dialogue sunane ka mai aadi ho chuka hoen.Aakhir waqt ke pravah ka samman bhi to karna hai,WAQT KE SAATH CHALNA BHI TO HAI ..ha..ha...ha
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Well I’m not really arguing anything because as far I have seen in such issues people take very strong polar opposite stances & I have not seen anyone changing their stance after arguments.

But I would put a few points...

firstly the grand old logic...everything is relative...especially in these issues...

secondly what is considered as ”culture” is just a set of practices evolved over time which is shaped by exigencies...so those very things can be again altered by changing externalities...the basis of suffocating conservatism in India is basically due to numerous foreign invasions we have had and otherwise I’m sure we would have been much more liberal...

Lastly..if you ask a personal question...yes I don’t mind if someone in my family becomes a homosexual...nor do I feel embarrassed...It would be wrong to assume that these things never happened before...only that they were kept under wrap as taboos...
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@Jitaditya

Exception should not turn into a general rule!!!
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@Jitaditya

” It would be wrong to assume that these things never happened before...only that they were kept under wrap as taboos...”

———-Exception should not turn into a general rule!!!
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yes...but nor is it necessary to condemn it or make them feel embarrassed...unless they force it upon others...
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”unless they force it upon others...”

They might not be forcing it upon others but they certainly are setting wrong/odd precedents.And there are some people who make these odd precedents representative of progressive behaviour.Why can’t be remain progressive in a simple and normal way ? Is it necessary to glorify aberrations ?

The problem is that we have lost the art of honouring simplicity.It’s the age of complexity.In other words,it’s now too late.We have covered a long distance on a wrong path.
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Well...a few more point before leaving...

firstly you are disregarding people’s ability to make their decisions themselves...for example homosexuality is a psychological condition (I thought aberration is derogatory)...one doesn’t become a gay just by looking at someone else...

secondly what you call simplicity is also a relative term...I always found it more complex...for example arranged marriage & related formalities...matching by the astrologer...compulsory node from all family members...match of religion/language/cast/status....for me it is very complex & I never understood why is it so...
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Firstly you are disregarding people’s ability to make their decisions themselves.

So you think there is no such thing as right or wrong ?That way every criminal may be able to justify his behaviour.

Anyway, I appreciate(not saying in relation with homosexulaity) the new trend patterns flowing in the world- treating foul as fair....ha..ha

Aao Ki Hum Apne Gunaho Ko Koi Achha Sa Naam De De....Is that what you are trying to say ? If that’s the only real way to set things right then I accept it.
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So now you are trying to mix up everything...for me by terming someones personal activity as criminal is criminal itself...they are not stealing or robbing from you...nor are they killing you...

it is sad that despite 60 years of democracy people are still unable to respect other people’s personal space...

By blatantly terming it as ”gunaah” you will probably make the Talibans happy...not anyone else...
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Also...

a bit off topic...Indians show remarkable hypocrisy at times...why does India rank among the most corrupt nations?...there are people who find premarital sex immoral...but taking bribe is fine for them...what kind of society are we heading towards...?...
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@Jitaditya

I have no problem with such bizarre ”personal activity”.I am also least interested in annihilating ”other people’s personal space...”

However, I am only against treating such behavior as manifestation of progressive behaviour.

Regarding the word ”Gunah” and ”criminal” I think your interpretation is bit wayward.I am only suggesting that it has become our habit to justify wild actions all in the name of progressiveness.

Just like America.It can freely demolish the sovereignty of any nation all in the name of safeguarding democratic principles and human rights!!!

When I say so I mean there are lot of other crazy things going on in name of ”total freedom”.I have referred to many other issues in my article.Don’t limit the debate to the ”bashing” of homosexuals.I mean I am discussing a more serious issue that deals with pros and cons of of accepting wild behaviour in name of honouring modernity.
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@ Jitaditya

Can’t comment on ” a bit off topic ” observation!!That’s going to create an unwanted deviation....So you think no hypocrisy exists in developed countries?
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@Aravind

my interpretation would not have been wayward had you not resorted to filmy dialogues...(or was it a poem?)

Coming back to the topic...I don’t think anyone projects unusual sexual behavior as a sign of progress...you are just taking it too seriously...

But introducing sex education, removing unnecessary barriers in society & creating a situation where youth need not be afraid of elders before having a date are definitely signs of a progressive society.

About hypocrisy...
yes it is everywhere...but I think it is more abominating in India..I don’t have to prove it...our situation proves it...
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@ Jitaditya


“ …had you not resorted to filmy dialogues...(or was it a poem?)”

————-Ha..ha..ha

” Aao Ki Hum Apne Gunaho Ko Koi Achha Sa Naam De De....”

I read similar lines while reading a work of prominent Urdu poet.I came to project the same view in my own way.

Well, I think we both have nothing new to add in this debate. I am ending the (fruitful) conversation with you by presenting two verses of two different legendary poets –Sahir and Firaq. The verses are representative of not only what I really feel but also how I feel. How you say things is equally important as what you say!!

Lastly, many thanks to you for echoing your views on this post. I look forward to your future views.


A verse from a poem by Sahir:

Vajehein-berangyein gulzar kaho to kya ho

Kaun hai kitna gunahgar,kaho to kya ho

Tumne jo baat sarein-bazma na sunana chahein

Main wohi baat sare-daar kaho to kya ho.

(Just imagine the consequences if I actually present the cause of defloration of world’s garden

Just imagine the consequences if I really state who the sinners are

If I really make your secrets open which you don’t want to accept publicly

Just imagine the consequences if I really state such personal affairs openly.)

A verse from a poem by Firaq:

Duniya mein ab is marza ke bimar nahi

Is daur mein satjug ke parastaar nahi

Is raddi maal ki nikaasi hai muhaal

Bazaar mein maazi ke kharidaar nahi.

(Obsession with cherished values is now a rarity

It’s not the age of refined values

Nobody is going to buy the refined ideals-the outdated products

Ancient values are of no use in market called world. )

(Sorry! My translation is not good. I am awaiting better translation of these verses. I am doing it only for the likes of Michael. As far as I am concerned, I enjoy reading fiction & poetry in their original form.)
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@ Jitaditya


“ …had you not resorted to filmy dialogues...(or was it a poem?)”

————-Ha..ha..ha

” Aao Ki Hum Apne Gunaho Ko Koi Achha Sa Naam De De....”


Jitaditya Bhai yeh filmy dialogue to bilkul nahi ho sakta hai.Aajkal ke filmy dialogue itne arthapoorna keha hote hai.Aajkal to ”Teri Nikal Padi”....”Teri To Phat Padi”....ityadi...ityadi..type ke hote hai.

Ye alag baat hai ki is tarah ke dialogue sunane ka mai aadi ho chuka hoen.Aakhir waqt ke pravah ka samman bhi to karna hai,WAQT KE SAATH CHALNA BHI TO HAI ..ha..ha...ha
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मैंने कब कहा की आजकी फिल्मो की हैं....पुराणी फिल्मो की भई हो सकती थी!!!
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@ Jitaditya

Bahut Patein Ki Baat Kahi Hai Aapne.Chaliyein kisi ne to mana thoda hi sahi ki purani filmoen ,vyaktiyoen ,aadarshoen me kuch khaas tha....

Umeed Karta Hoen Ki Sahir aur Firaq saheb ki shayari aapkoen pasand ayein hogi.

Anta mein apnein ”progressive” age ka ek naya geet sun lijyein aur bhai log kitna badhiya sochtein hai yeh dekh lijyein :UTHA LE YA PHENK DE,LE LE YA CHOD DE from movie ”Dil Kabaddi”

It’s a chartbuster song ...ha...ha..ha!!!
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RobbieNZ
Auckland, New Zealand
Good article Arvind... India has to shape up to the standard and stop dreaming of Nuclear subs... Condom to all... quick!
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@ RobbieNZ

”Condom to all”

——Ha..ha.ha....VERY PROGRESSIVE IDEA...ha..ha
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@RobbieNZ

”Condom to all”

The most progressive comment on this post.... ha..ha..ha...LOL
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