Arvind, there can be another angle to it

People like Asaraam Bapu have strong political contacts and it is very easy for them to influence media organizations to stop broadcasts their insane deeds.

These guys have made preaching a business. They rake in crores of rupees while be-fooling the public of this country which is highly sensitive to religious idioms.

Asaraam is no God and a test of his endurance was the kind of language he used against the media-persons a little while back.

I still won’t say anything against Ramdev because i’ve personally known a lot of people who have benefitted from his simple yoga exercises and medicines. At least he is not out there preaching the sermons of God and raking money. He is giving the people of this country a way to lead a health life.

@Atul

I appreciate your take on the issue from a different angle.But who told the followers to follow anybody in a blind fashion? You are right that ”preaching” has become some sort of business but then it’s because of followers.If something has become a ”hit item”,it’s indicative of its demand.

Anyway,my point of view is that it’s no crime to highlight wrongs done by religious heads but then there should be a certain code of conduct and rules. You cannot treat them as hardcore criminals without having sufficient evidence against them.

Media has gone to the dogs and that’s a harsh reality.That’s why a Broadcast Bill has been introduced that’s aimed at monitoring the news content on TV channels.

Arvind
Media conducts a parallel trial that's why police is forced to hold an impartial inquiry. Many times media has discovered the information required for investigation and has helped investigating agencies.

Why are you concentrating on Hindus only? Do you think police is partial towards the Hindus? I don't think so. In fact police don't dare to touch the so called Hindu saints. If proper inquiry will be held into the personal life of Hindu saints it will highlight the dark side of these saints, how they are fooling the people?

Atul
You raised a genuine issue. Why these saints pretend to be God. Why they maintain strong contacts with leaders? During the time of parliamentary elections I read a hording depicting " Ram Dev" and asking for votes in directly for Advani. He gave the slogan " If you want to get back the black money from Swiss Banks, do vote for right people". Why was he using his influence to get votes for Mr. Advani.

Arvind
Preaching is not a some sort of business, it's completely a business. The market forces have commercialized the God.

But then legal reforms are also a genuine call. Why not make the media a party while leading the evidence in court trails. It would then be interesting to see how many of these parallel trails are used to bust the scams,frauds and tragedies. Make media a part of all effective trails where the lead came from their coverage.

Arvind , I guess you missed the point where I said that Hindu’s are sensitive about religious idioms. And 80% of the people who follow such saints are education deprived. Such people seek refuge in holy sermons and believe that these fake saints are a means to shelter themselves.

@Vinit

You have deviated away from the main topic.

Anyway, you are not aware of the fact that India is basically the land of religion or spirituality.Saints are not only representative of Lord but also greater than the Lord.Saints from time immemorial have always shown path to kings as ”Dharmaguru ”.

Today you might hail it as a progressive spirit that keeps politics above religion but in India it’s simply impossible to separate them as two distinct things!! That never been part of our culture.Have U forgotten how Shivaji remained in unison with Samartha Guru Ramdas?

Yes, there are demons in the guise of saints but few examples cannot be used to tarnish the image of real ones.If one doctor turns out to be quack,will you then label all the qualified doctors as quacks ?

@Manishkumar

That’s a sad reality Manish.

But I will like to ask you tell me one phenomenon in our times that’s not governed by money ? Religion too has become a tool for some to attract money.It’s not the fault of religion but the fault of our times.

@Atul


”Hindu’s are sensitive about religious idiom”.What’s wrong in it ? Well, other races are also very sensitive to religious idioms ? Have you watched Pakistani cricket players on the field after a victory?They bow down and kiss the ground.Take the name of Allah before delivering the presentation speech.

True,less educated may be more in number but there is huge class of educated followers as well.Anyway, faith in God has to do nothing with one’s education.Americans are very educated and progressive but yet they are devoted towards Church.Why ?

Please for the God’s sake don’t quote Marx.Religion is the “opium of the masses” and etc.

@Gaurav

No.That’s not the case Guarav.Yes, in some cases it has helped police and Court in arriving at right conclusions.But generally it has made the job of police tough by circulating wild theories. It also creates problem for the Courts by giving rise to strange impressions in the public that makes difficult for the judges to conduct the trials in healthy environment.

For example in Ayushi Murder case,there were many stories planted against the father.Waht happened to these stories after father’s acquittal ?

In Bob Woolmer’s death there was again all sort of imaginary stories.What happened after these stories after it was found that he died of natural causes ?

In Inderpuri Police Staion Gang Rape Case the news channels are now finding tough to cover their misdeeds ?

There are many examples to show that how parallel trial,triggered by sensationalism, has heightened the tension.

In Bob Woolmer’s death all sort of imaginary stories were doing the rounds in Media.The stories vanish into the thin air after it was found that he died of natural causes ?

@Atul

Like to refine your knowledge in this regard.You are not aware of important facts in this regard.

The Courts have always taken suo motu cognizance in many cases on the basis of media reports.If I am not wrong the Allahabad Court asked for the number of missing children in UP on basis of media reports.The Similar thing was also done by the Delhi High Court.

Touching this issue from a different angle,there is a provision to call the person in the Court and record his version.So if the media has conclusive evidences it’s always free to be the part of whole mechanism.

@Gibson

Nobody is against the ”proper inquiry”.I am against misuse of investigative agencies and media.Well,I have concentrated on Hindus only because of the recent happenings that smack of dubious role of these agencies.

Anyway,if you are trying to convey that investigative agencies are by and large under the influence of political rulers and therefore biased is also not far away from truth !!

The Investigative Agencies are govern by the Act passed by the Parliament. It should be kmown that It is Secretary who run the Government. If any Officer of Investigative Agency dont perform his duty , than Courts are well within their rights to pass strictures against that Officer. There is no accountability toward the Acqital of the cases , Same way the making false illegation is also punishable . so the madam who complaint of Gang rape by Police should have been charged under appropriate Section of Cr. P. C. We have to resort to the action of pre Independance days , In tackling such Media Publicity. which at certaine places have triggered Agitations and have damaged the Life and Property .Godhra Cover of News was repurcussion of the Media report . Media should expose News which relate to the Law and Order and different project beneficial for the Nation

@Arvind

Instead of verbally shrieking out your views and always believing that you are right...it is important to consider what others are writing.


’ The Courts have always taken suo motu cognizance in many cases on the basis of media reports.If I am not wrong the Allahabad Court asked for the number of missing children in UP on basis of media reports.The Similar thing was also done by the Delhi High Court.

Touching this issue from a different angle,there is a provision to call the person in the Court and record his version.So if the media has conclusive evidences it’s always free to be the part of whole mechanism.’

Do you think all this is conclusive and this has refined my knowledge.


I am challenging the free provision...which should be compulsory. If they present something as a breaking news with conclusive facts..they should be made party in every case where an evidence is required. It is not about lodging cases based on media complaints but make the media itself a party while leading evidence.

At least state examples that make relevance sense to what is being written.

All religions preach good deeds and a way to lead a healthy life. If some Gurus misuse it, it does not mean that religion and spirituality is bad. How do your rate atheist institutions such as medical science, law, chartered accountancy etc.? Are the people who practice them any better than tantriks? They are far more corrupt than these babas.

@Vinit,

Lets be very clear on this issue. We the commoners have very little choice. The atheist institutions are far more corrupt than the spiritual. Spirituality gives peace and happiness. Gurus of today are also quite corrupt. Its the Kalyug afterall. So, we have to decide that. For me, materialism can bring comfort but not happiness.

@Atul,

”And 80% of the people who follow such saints are education deprived. Such people seek refuge in holy sermons and believe that these fake saints are a means to shelter themselves.”—————————————-


What is meant by education? The present day education is atheist oriented, westernised, anti-Indian culture and misinterprets religion and spirituality. Whatever we have learnt in schools and colleges is nonsense. Its just brainwash! Certain vested interests have taken over the education system to suit their agendas. Promoting atheism and materialism helps them meet their agendas. WE ARE ALREADY SEEING PEOPLE MOVING AWAY FROM SPIRITUALITY ON VARIOUS EXCUSES.

Yes, most saints today are fake. But that does not mean that spirituality and religion is fake. Aren’t most Doctors fake too?

@Arvind,

”True,less educated may be more in number but there is huge class of educated followers as well.Anyway, faith in God has to do nothing with one’s education.Americans are very educated and progressive but yet they are devoted towards Church.Why ?”————————————————————–

What is education and who are educated? Are WE educated people? Educated about what? Today’s education is a mere sham. 90% of all crimes are committed by educated people!!! Today’s education is atheist and material oriented. We simply cannot see or believe anything beyond objects and proofs. Hence, we cannot understand ourselves. We cannot realise ourselves because we are trapped in this ’objectivity’ theory.






”Please for the God’s sake don’t quote Marx.Religion is the “opium of the masses” and etc.———————————

Do the Marxists have answers and solutions to life’s problems? Do they have answers to the mystery called life? Can Marxism bring happiness to people? Can it bring them peace of mind and serenity? Obviously not because all atheist movements concentrate on objects and materialism. They believe that here is no higher self and materialism is the goal of life!

@Atul

Chill buddy! First things first.First realize that your comment that suggests media as a party is devoid of substance.Had you been really aware of the facts you would not have ferociously recommended making media part of effective trails.

Considering the media’s love for sensationalism and its glaring abuse of power vested in it ,it’s not a great idea to have their versions as proof all the time.

Why should media present evidence when it’s the job of police and investigative agencies to collect the evidences?When there are other legal channels open to do the same job why should anyone else be doing the same thing?

In fact,there is no need for media to poke its nose in matters beyond its ambit.It should stick to its job rather than assuming the job of investigative agencies.

That will only make the jobs of courts more difficult and in fact that will create unnecessary conflict between media and investigative agencies.We leave no stone unturned in condemning Courts for delay in justice.The presence of media is only going to make things go out of control.

Anyway, there is no need to make it’s presence compulsory.Such a request on your part only shows that you are devoid of facts.It shows that you are not aware of legal procedures.

I have already stated that Courts always take note of media reports whenever they find merit in it.The media can also register it’s presence while collection of evidence via a simple application.

Let me inform you that media is all the time open to be a party in any case.Are U aware of it?I don’t think so.

If its so confident that it’s associated with any case in a real way and its presence cannot be ignored then it can always be a party.There is no bar in this regard. Just request the Court via a lawyer and you will be treated as a party if you convince them with your arguments in light of your evidences.

Also the option of PIL is always available.

Why I am not so interested in giving larger than life importance to versions of media is because I have seen in Court how media’s so-called full-proof stories gets shattered into pieces once it’s subjected to cross examination in the Courts.You cannot waste the precious moments of courts when there are so many pending cases.

Against this backdrop,the present system of recording the evidence is fool proof and also it’s better to have investigative agencies than media people.The difference in role should remain intact.More so when there is nothing that prevents them from interacting with each other.More so when there are many routes for media to highlight its presence in an effective way.

Needless to say had it been so conscious of role, it would not have allowed it’s image to be on par with that of prostitute.Changing version all the time to be in limelight,to gain power and to make more money.Why the hell it should be considered so important when it has misused it’s power at regular intervals ?


You have also made some insignificant remarks in your comment.Well,is it crime to sound right all the time or should the author appear confused and unsure while writing any piece?

And yes,I have always considered views of others and I am always ready to amend my views if there arises such need.Don’t worry about it.Had I not taken note of what you are saying, I would not have jotted down long comments,isn’t it ?

Ironically,people interested in having conclusive views are themselves devoid of sound logic and right mindset.If you don’t have the ability to grasp the essence,why are you so adamant in regard to conclusive view?Anyway, whether any view is conclusive or not has also to do with one’s mindset.If you are all the time interested in defending your half-baked truths,you are bound to find the views of others not conclusive enough !!

Rest assured.I try my best to make my replies reasonable in light of proper facts.I have spent a long time on IB.You can have a look at the replies.I might appear harsh in my tone but I have never been wayward while replying to the queries.

And yes,we all are humans and therefore open to mistakes.I too have committed mistakes or can commit mistakes.But that’s applicable to all of us.

Many years back, I wrote this here in Instablogs and followed the article up by this one.

Please check the comments on both the articles.

Arvind
If I am not wrong then you are pointing towards the case against Col Purohit and Sadhvi Pragya Singh? Every body knows that many cases of bomb blasts in India have been orchestrated by Hindu fanatics. Even, many Bajrang Dal activists have died while making the bombs.

Rohan
You mean to say that only spiritualism can bring happiness. BTW, how many times in the history spiritualism has brought happiness to people rather than dividing them on the bases of religion and caste.

@Jayanta

Thanks for making your presence felt.

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Lisa De Witt has posted a very interesting comment on the second article :



Jonty, why is it that atheists have such difficulty with the concept of ”freedom of religion” when they are allowed to practice non-religion themselves in the democratic society called India? If Tharoor can be denied a job simply because of his religious beliefs then so can YOU for being an atheist since many people consider atheists ”irrational” as you put it. My question is, why are atheists (the ”rational” police) involving themselves in an inquisition of those who believe in God? What purpose does it serve? Is someone funding atheists to attack Sai Baba?

While Sai Baba may be very controversial to atheists and evangelical Christians, he has NEVER been convicted of fraud or any other crime as you seem to imply by your extremely deceptive and devisive article. Fraud is an easy thing to prove in court if you have the evidence. So why are you giuys always on the internet beating your drums rather than the courtroom since you claim to have evidence of fraud?

On the other hand, in my almost four years of research into the allegations I have found evidence of crimes and wanted criminals within the anti-Sai activist group that is basically stalking and harassing Sai Baba and his followers.

I have turned information over to law enforcement EIGHT times as a result of my research. And that is JUST the tip of the iceberg.

My suggestion is that you leave the law enforcement to TRAINED professionals and find another way to become famous or whatever it is that motivates your kind.

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@ Atul

Don’t think I am cocksure about validity of my arguments by insisting that I am right all the time.But I am certainly not going to doubt the validity of my arguments unless I am presented enough arguments and evidences that go against my arguments.Unless that’s the case it’s not right on the part of the readers to view the motive and intentions of the writer in wrong light.

There is also a thing called difference of opinion.So if we are not interested in honouring views of each other,let’s agree to disagree.

@Gibson

”Everbody knows” is a hilarious phrase.What’s preventing these people to record their evidences before the concerned authority ?

Anyway, what I am trying to say that there is no point in treating saints as hardcore criminals before their conviction.When there can be hue and cry over rights of Afzal and Azmal Kasab,why are we ignoring the rights of Hindu saints to defend their dignity?

Let me once again state that no one is above law and therefore be always open to all sort of investigation be it a saint or a politician.However,such procedures be not used to serve the vested interest.That’s all. How would you feel if I subject you to unnecessary investigation by filing a fake case against you apart from circulating dubious stories about you in the media? Would you be comfortable amid such scenario ?

@Capt.

I accept your view that media needs to behave in a sensible manner.Thanks for leaving a comment.

Arvind
No one is above law! That's what I am trying to say. Why to protect people like Purohit and Pragya Singh? Why can't we allow the investigative agencies to work freely? Let these people face the consequences for what they have done.

@Vinit

Spiritualism has certainly helped people attain a peace of mind.

Lastly, spiritualism has not divided people on basis of caste and religion.Spirituality has to do nothing with caste and religion.You can always be spiritual without being religious !!

@Gibson

Our constitution says, ”a man is innocent until proven guilty”. Why are you/we ignoring it in the case of Hindu saints ?

Should Under trials be treated as convicts? That’s horrible and so inhumane.

Arvind
You are right that under trials should not be treated as criminals but it is not very tough for people like Purohit and Pragya Singh to influence the witnesses. They are getting the support from various political sections.

@Vinit,

”You mean to say that only spiritualism can bring happiness. BTW, how many times in the history spiritualism has brought happiness to people rather than dividing them on the bases of religion and caste.”————————————-



Nobody can get ultimate happiness in materialism as you atheist guys propound. We are seeing an absolute decline in the world since atheism came into being. Spiritualism is very difficult to understand because it is abstract and intangible. When there can be controversies about tangible subjects, how can there be perfect understanding of intangible subjects like spirituality? BTW, spirituality or religion never divided the people. Its the people who never understood it who made communities of their own and started attacking each other. (This is the height of absurdity as spirituality and religion teach peace and harmony).

I want to ask you something. Modern societies have all the luxuries that you can think of and some even beyond,. But are people happy? Definately not! I can assure you that happiness levels have decreased with more and more materialism and consumerism.

@Arvind,

”Spirituality has to do nothing with caste and religion.You can always be spiritual without being religious !”—————————————


I thought religion was a part of spirituality. But since I am not so well-read on these subjects, I thought I will ask you.

BTW, religion or spirituality never divided people. Its the people who misunderstood these and misused them.

@Arvind,

The concept of atheism took ground at a time when religion was totally screwed up and reduced to rituals and fights. The people of that generation started questioning God and spirituality on the ground that religion and spirituality had lost its relevance. Then came the era of secularism, materialism, rational thinking etc. These guys never understood the fact that religion and spirituality were very different from the way they were made to be. By then, the movement had taken political ground and it was difficult to back out. Political interests were supreme and above anything else. Hence, these atheist bigots pushed it further on the people. Meantime, certain vested interests such as the Capitalists and MNCs saw an opportunity and supported and funded these atheist groups from behind. No concept or theory can ever become well-known without funding and media support. Today, people are paying the price of atheism in the form of more stress, materialism, consumerism....people have become money-making machines for these MNCs and companies. Besides, they have become slaves to these atheist groups who have captured power by mass brain wash.

@Arvind,

All atheist groups, communist groups, socialist groups, feminist groups and concepts related to anti-spirituality are funded, aided and abetted by vested interests as these movements would ultimately lead to great power and money for themselves. Today, we in India are seeing the evils of materialism, consumerism, feminism, destruction of family system, promotion of homosexuality etc. These concepts are promoted for the simple reason that certain vested interests can become rich and stay in power. Divorce rate is increasing because of popularisation of ”women’s rights without responsibilities” and western culture. This means more business for Lawyers, police, judges, intermediaries, matrimonial sites, dating sites, women’s rights groups, marriage business-persons etc. Its like anti-virus companies creating more and more viruses and offering solutions themselves (I am referring to women’s groups here).

@Gibson

What have you to say about Mr Afzal ? Why he is not being hanged?He is a convict and that too by the Apex court.Why is our secular intelligentsia and media shedding crocodile tears over alleged violation of human rights ?

” Arundhati Roy and Praful Bidwai castigated the trial and argued that Afzal has been denied natural justice.[3][4] Accusations of human rights violations have been made by many.

Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad of the Congress, Communist and local political groups voiced their support of clemency for Afzal.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Afzal

A convict is being hailed as innocent.SHAME ! SHAME ! SHAME

I have merely stated in my article that let not investigative agencies harass the innocent Hindu saints.That has made you people very uncomfortable.

But you people are not uncomfortable when a person involved in one of the most heinous crimes is proven guilty by the Apex Court still manages to elicit support from our media and so-called intellectuals. SHAME !

Yes, give no room to people found guilty in heinous crimes no matter if they are Hindu saints.But don’t treat them like hardcore criminals before conviction.More so when our media and intellectuals are shedding tears for Afzal , Kasab ,SIMI and etc.

@Rohan

I thought religion was a part of spirituality. But since I am not so well-read on these subjects,I thought I will ask you.”

This is really a very interesting affair.To talk about difference between spirituality and religion is not that easy in case of Hindu religion.The Sanatana Dharma is more a way of living than mere amalgam of outward symbols and rituals.That’s why it’s not that easy to notice the difference between spirituality and religion in this land.This difference is quite subtle here.But when you contrast this term with Islam or Christianity the difference is sharp because as you know both these religions are heavily ritual oriented.

Anyway in strict sense the difference between two is that whereas the religion is associated with externalities and symbols,the spirituality on the other hand is the expansion of our soul or self. Even if you are not religious but if you are involved in betterment of society treating all humans with no hopes of gain other than inner satisfaction you are spiritual.Remember what Lord has said in Geeta? He he who sees me in all humans and all humans in me is the real Gyani or Bhkata or a spiritual person.

Have a look at other explanations related with the difference.


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Presenting excerpts from Radahakrisnan’s book Eastern Religions And Western Thoughts :

” A spiritual as distinct from a dogmatic view of life remains unaffected by the advance of science and criticism of history.Religion generally refers to something external, a system of sanctions and consolations, while spirituality points to the need for knowing and living in the highest self and raising life in all its parts.Spirituality is the core of religion and its inward essence, and mysticism emphasizes this side of religion ”

(From Page 61)

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SPIRITUALITY


In most articles that I read, the authors always switch from the word ‘religion’ to the word ‘spirituality’ and vice versa without any explanations or without explaining the differences between these two words.


Human beings have reached the intellectual stage. They have a higher stage to attain. It is the stage of spiritual fulfilment. With physics we also have to learn ‘ta meta ta phusika’ (things after the Physics).It is that transition which is affected by the discipline of religion.

The spiritual cult is a form of deism inspired by faith. Faith is an original characteristic of the human mind going beyond the senses and yet intuitively sensing an object that belongs to a higher order of reality.

All forms of religion, which have appeared on earth, assume the fundamental need of the human heart. Man longs for a power above him on which he could depend, ONE that is greater than himself whom he could worship.

Most of us practise religion, go to temples, churches, etc., we think that we are religious, but in our hearts we often carry irreligious thoughts. What is necessary is a process of establishing victory over the impediments to the insight into the Ultimate Reality.

The concept of spirituality is based on direct communion with the Ultimate Reality, an attitude of compassion.

Yearning to know the Ultimate Reality is the driving force in the spiritual path.

Ultimate Reality (ADITI in Sanskrit is probably the earliest name invented to express the infinite) –

That from which all things arise, by which they are sustained, into which they are swallowed up, that is the Ultimate Reality - a scientific understanding of the nature of experience, an unravelling of the mystery of nature, a penetrating into the heart of reality and discovering that this world is rooted in a spirit of bliss, in a spirit of freedom. It is that that constitutes Reality. Here is no dogma; here is no authority.

Religions are only aids to attain spirituality. They are like ladders to climb to the altar of spirituality, from which one gets one’s direct connection with the Ultimate Reality. This altar has no prescribed size and shape – it is in our minds.

Spirituality is a feeling or a state of mind, religion is the way that stage gets codified into law. When one attains the height of spirituality, the Ultimate Reality becomes one’s companion.

Resting at the altar of spirituality – a gate opens to the spiritual truth and spiritual experience. It constructs a harmony of knowledge, love and work, through which the soul of man can directly approach the eternal, the Ultimate Reality. A spiritual discipline, which includes pitiless self-examination, will enable the seeker to reach ONENESS.

It is not necessary to change the label of one’s faith in order to achieve progress in inward life. True conversion is not from one formal faith to another, but vertical, from less to more of spirituality.

Spirituality is concerned with the contemplative-realizational rather than with the ritualistic ceremonial aspect of religious life. It demands inner purity of life and not only external conduct.

Spirituality is free from all limitations and deficiencies usually associated with a human agency. It gives a soul to the world.

The characteristics of spirituality are: to overcome anger by love, evil by good, greed by liberality, and falsehood by truth. It teaches us to develop understanding and increase compassion.

Spirituality helps us to realize the dignity of each individual and this is important for creating bonds of love and service, which are indispensable for today and tomorrow.

Spirituality is intensely personal; religion is institutional.

We have to go beyond the trappings of dogmas of the institutional religions. Mere dogmas will not do. We must feel or experience the spiritual reality.

Spirituality brings harmony of faiths, union with the Ultimate Reality that is the supreme end of life.

Spirituality transcends diversity of race, colour, language and sect. Spirituality promotes democracy.

Sadly, this concept of spirituality is hardly found in the present day institutional religions, dogmas of which have degenerated into bigotry and fanatical behaviour. This phenomenon arose from man’s passion for power.

When we say God is in man, it does not follow that with it there is an end of all endeavour. God is not in man in such an obvious fashion that he can possess God absentmindedly and without effort or struggle. God is present as a potential or a possibility. It is man’s duty to lay hold of God by force and action. The God in man is a task as well as a fact, a problem as well as a possession. Man in his ignorance identifies himself with the external wrappings, the physical and mental envelopments. Desire for the absolute conflicts with his finitude or his limitations.

Though the individual is lit with the divine Spark, he is not wholly divine. His divinity is not an actuality, but a part of God aspiring to be the whole. As he is, he is dust and deity, God and brute crossed. It is the task of the moral life to eliminate the non-divine element, not by destroying it, but by suffusing it with the divine spirit.

Moral life is a spiritual-centred life, a life of passionate love and endless enthusiasm for humanity, a life of seeking the infinite through the finite and not a mere selfish adventure for small ends.

To attain spirituality means: the summum bonum of life is to have perfect peace of mind and joy that does not know sorrow in this world.

Spirituality will bring true knowledge, which is the basis of all that we do in society.

The work of true knowledge is humility rather than arrogance, candour in lieu of hypocrisy, peace and purity instead of restlessness and passion, and earnest self-control taking the place of egoistic attachment to the things of sense.

(References: Cultural Heritage of India by Institute of Culture, Ramakrishna Mission, Kolkata, India; Indian Philosophy by Radhakrishnan; Our Heritage by Radhakrishnan; The Religion of Man by Tagore; The Principal Upanisads by Radhakrishnan)



http://www.yogason.com/religion_&_spirituality.htm

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@Rohan

”Its like anti-virus companies creating more and more viruses and offering solutions themselves (I am referring to women’s groups here).”

A very humorous take on the happenings of our times.

BTW, I must compliment you for your ability to speak in such an unambiguous fashion on critical issues of our times.You responses are really very thought provoking.I know it’s not that easy to jot down long comments yet not losing hold over words and thoughts.

Keep it up.

@Arvind,

”A very humorous take on the happenings of our times.

BTW, I must compliment you for your ability to speak in such an unambiguous fashion on critical issues of our times.You responses are really very thought provoking”———————————————————————

All businesses and companies run this way. Create a situation where people are forced to buy the products. So, by creating new viruses, they create the problem. Then they offer solutions to that. Women’s groups operate the same way. They create a situation where women feel threatened and then offer solutions in the form of 498A etc. Now, coming to atheists, they were backed by the Capitalists and MNCs just as the feminists were because the spread of atheism and feminism would lead to materialism, consumerism, family destruction, divorces etc. Thus, a situation that would enrich these companies would be created. Hence, feminism and women’s rights apart from rational thinking and atheism, besides comsumerism have become very popular in our times. These concepts are plain bunk and idiotic! But these idiotic concepts make a business sense to the Capitalists and MNCs. So, they are funding them.

Thank you for that.

As always...long replies blah blah blah means that you are perfect with your facts..

I know what I wrote in there but still there is not a valid reply to what I meant...Comprehension seems to be a big problem for you buddy..

You could write a book that makes no sense with these comments. I’ll hit in next when you finally understand what I meant. all the best! Keep yapping ...go on!

@Atul

Yes..I am too aware of the fact that there are likes of you on Instablogs and elsewhere who are too dull headed to participate in serious debates with right facts and right mindset.The only remarks you people are capable of giving are are the ones mired in personal attacks.

Look at your reply.Instead of stating what you mean or commenting on what I stated you are making personal attack.Keep writing shit.That suits your persona.

Short replies are too subtle for you to comprehend while you lack the concentration power to read the long ones.

First go and learn how to participate in serious debates.It’s time for you to realize your shortcomings first instead of pointing accusing fingers at others merely to hide one’s inferiority complex.

Next time you reply just take care you have something better to offer other than ”shit” of yours.

”I know what I wrote in there..”

I know it’s devoid of any sense but still answered it in length to drive home a point which I know realize that it’s exercise in futility to explain something to ignorant like you.

’No valid reply’,My foot !

@Atul

You appear to find meaning in short reply !Here comes a very short reply.

Go get the facts right and learn to accept your mistake when you make one in the debates!!

The length of your Comments is astounding...so how many pages do you now have in that book of yours...indeed the ’shitty book’ of yours. Serious debates need a good article upfront not a serious issue written like shit...I think i got my facts sorted out. what say bonehead..go ahead..your hands must be itching to write another long narrative which makes your feel witty...but sadly that wit deprives you..go on yapppp..but please stop argiung like morons,,,first do this, first do that ...go on now! Write a page again.

The length of your Comments is astounding...so how many pages do you now have in that book of yours...indeed the ’shitty book’ of yours. Serious debates need a good article upfront not a serious issue written like shit...I think i got my facts sorted out. what say bonehead..go ahead..your hands must be itching to write another long narrative which makes your feel witty...but sadly that wit deprives you..go on yapppp..but please stop arguing like morons,,,first do this, first do that ...go on now! Write a page again.

@Atul

Thanx Buddy a lot! For revealing to all of us who u really are.Keep recycling your shit.Only thing you’re good for is mass manufacturing your ”valid shit” !!

Now go and relax a bit before making a comeback with another idiotic comment!!

My insta mates know me for 4 years if that is what introduction means to you and anyways it is good to see a chafed twit trying to find his wits here on insta...you rock!!! I expect to read more of your shitty articles around...all the best..You love shit, Don’t you and it seems that you even find ways to mass-manufacture it...get it checked bra...it can make you weak and your wits too!

@Atul

Now after reading your ”recycled shit” your friends on Insta would come to know you more better !!

Yes, ”I love shit” because likes of you are nowadays greater in number who are mass manufacturing shit.A writer should have the capacity to tolerate shit in our times as a mark of respect to readers like you engaged in offering shit in name of ”conclusive” and ”valid” points.That’s why I tolerated your out-of-context remarks till now but now I am not going to respond to your remarks.

My friend time is precious.I will now not be responding to your comments as going by response it’s clear that neither you are capable of making sensible comments nor are capable of intercepting the views of others in right context.

It’s really disturbing that you are interested in imposing your view on me.Just look at your attitude and that speaks volume about your mental level.Ask your Insta friends to teach you a lesson or two in giving proper replies in a debate.

When a clarification is offered you make a very stupid statement that ” Do you think all this is conclusive and this has refined my knowledge.” or ”At least state examples that make relevance sense to what is being written.”Look at yourself.How well you are defending your ”relevance sense” via cheap remarks!

Now when explanation is offered on the contentious points you complain that ” As always...long replies blah blah blah means that you are perfect with your facts..”.Being devoid of both right mannerism and right arguments you then enter in personal attacks.The right step for anyone in these circumstances would have been ”agreeing to disagree” and then leaving the debate or he/she would have offered views that highlighted his/her point of view with greater clarity.You chose the easier way to compensate for lack of better views from your side-projected your personal remarks !!

I have entered in many debates with likes of you who talk about lack of ”facts” and ”right arguments” but are neither capable of understanding the views of others nor capable of presenting arguments that upheld their arguments.All they are interested is merely offering irritating deviations from main theme of the article by offering wayward comments.

Tolerated enough of your nonsense.I request you to leave the debate.Time is precious and it needs not to be spend on answering out-of-context remarks.

I sure need a class-room assistance to clap for this reply. Nonethless, the positives out of this comment is that you adore shit and you finally confessed it. Your long shiitty replies won’t dent my repute here. Replying me could make your fingers sore though.

I’ve never read a more self-possessed/ self professed writer who has got nothing to offer more than his worldly common thoughts. Write something that can evoke thoughts of appreciation. Whatever you put in the article is so bloody obvious and then you talk about your level. Useless as you are..I hope that you could finally write something that leaves everyone impressed. Understood that insta is an open platform but try bettering what you write all the time. This article would have done you good in your high-school language paper lad.

Thanx a lot for your shit load of hatred in form of your comments.

*clap-clap-clap*

*Making a thumbs-up sign and waving to Atul*

And for Arvind, I have a question.

Arvind, take a note of your responses to Atul;

It’s really disturbing that you are interested in imposing your view on me.

it’s clear that neither you are capable of making sensible comments nor are capable of intercepting the views of others in right context.

I have entered in many debates with likes of you who talk about lack of ”facts” and ”right arguments” but are neither capable of understanding the views of others nor capable of presenting arguments that upheld their arguments.All they are interested is merely offering irritating deviations from main theme of the article by offering wayward comments.

Don’t you think your behavior and attitude (while debating on any issue) carries the exact qualities that you are trying to stick on Atul’s head??

I’m not taking anyone’s side, but you really need to do a bit of soul searching, Arvind. You behave in the exact manner. If you go through the past debates, you will easily come to know that I’m telling the truth.

Retrospection is the need of the hour for most of us, mere introspection develops a twisted mind that lacks substance!

@Aneez

Thanks for dropping by! Let’s hope ”retrospection” helps some people on the site to understand what’s the difference between ”wayward” and ”meaningful” comments.

Don’t worry about ”how I behave”.I know what I am up to.Soul searching?That’s my favourite pastime! After all, being a lover of Indian philosophy I often deal with ”Aatma” and ”Parmatma” issues at regular intervals :-)


”yaarab voh na samjheN haiN, na samjheNge meree baat

de aur dil unko,jo na de mujhko zabaaN aur”

(Ghalib)

@ Arvind

Nice thoughts!

BTW, I was really serious about the ”retrospection” part. And, I’ve included myself too when I said ”us”

It’s high time we all accept that we do need a bit of retrospection. I’m already half way down the lane. Hope to see you before I reach the destination.